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David M. puts forth this for discussion; if
interest is shown,
then it will be initiated as a new topic in the forum: Does anyone who was around in the 1950s, or early
1960s, every remember being pinned down, or sat on by my their
contemporary girl friends? I was wondering whether anyone has had
the delicious experience of being ‘face-sat’ under layers of rustling
multi-layered full circular stiff net petticoats? What are their memories
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Tina F.:
"Appears to be
a British concern, and they are devoted to our favorite look!"
www.candyanthony.com
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Hungarian Folk Dancing from Misha - lovely skirts and full petticoats on
the women... http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=T28Vjdo97eY http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=DxfehRP_5vM http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=xcoY_exqlm4&feature=related http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=xhPf59POaik&feature=related http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=yEj5m1bP3sA&feature=related http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=G8twbfC6NuE&feature=related http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWJVm1Ax-o&feature=related http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=WvrWsSkm0Hw&feature=related
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=AhRl49wPddA&feature=related
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Some reminisces, including of our
favorite subject.
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Crinolyn
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unique vidclip
- square dancing with a pop music 'play-over'. Kinda works! |
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vidclips which feature a petticoated dance skirt,
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Lexington Vintage Dance Society vidclips, from Misha:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=An-1CpOMhno http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=B_RIYLc8YvU http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=LvAeKx1bTwI "Clearly videoed by a petticoat enthusiast" |
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There is talk of New Look and
petticoats in this
examination of fifties fashion
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Iba has kindly made available on
Rapidshare the video which these thumbnails portray.
The gal's name is June – The title is A Frill In The Air from the Oh La La Glamour Girls website. CLICK IMAGES
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Ruffles introduces Tessy to something new! "Can't
remember if you have hosted pictures and sources of the Japanese fad
of 'Maid Cafe.' There are some darn cute outfits and |
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Misha:
"There are videos and pictures and some nice gowns. Could provide
some enjoyable discoveries for The Pond." |
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Chiffon: Echo de la Mode magazine 23 Jun 57 (translation below picture)
TRANSLATION BY MIKEL: Playing with Materials...on a Model As you know well, the model of a dress will produce quite different effects according to the material the model is made of. You have seen one exemple in a previous ECHO OF FASHION magazine issue which proposed a draped dress made of either crêpe, jersey, silk or wool. Similarly, the dresses you see in this article are built from the same pattern applied to four different materials, each of them bringing in its own characteristics (namely : nylon, organdie silk, twill silk and chiffon). We have built three of these dresses using natural silk. The beauty of this material, a very many possibilities it offers were perfect to get the various effects we expected. In addition, we decided to play on (and increase) the characteristics of each material with differently-shaped petticoats. • The first dress model is made of nylon the aspect of which is simply charming. Nylon is a light material, rather bouffant; the flounces of the dress are well-proportioned, properly located; they flare evenly from top to bottom.
• The second dress is made of
a blue organdie silk, it creates a more bouffant look. Its skirt has
a much more flaring structure, as if sustained by a Matching the dress, an organdy
petti is built with a flat adjusted yoke, on which are sewn two
tiers with loose-fitted darts. Each
tier is assembled at • The third dress is made of
printed twill silk. This material is heavier, softer
than silk or nylon, offering a steeper, falling look and in
another interpretation is sustained by a crêpe satin sheath
petticoat down to the bottom flounce of the dress. Right at its
bottom, the petti is made up of a full • Another model dress: made of grey chiffon used in double layers; this material is still softer than twill. Extremely fluid in its texture, the chiffon must fall naturally all along your body. It is worn upon a grey satin sheath, very close to your body (see the blue dress, bottom right). To end it up, when you plan
making a dress or a gown, test different materials, weigh their
texture, try them on, before making a decision. Then, The materials here described
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Addendum to yesterday, regarding Mary Janes, from Ruffles:
"I
forgot all about mentioning soles on dance shoes. Here is my
comment: Some are thin and soft, some are doubles, some can come
with outside soles, and some should be worn indoors only. It is
important to check. Swing shoes have very sturdy soles
(obviously) and are often skid resistant. Tap shoes can
sometimes come without taps, with removable taps, with
semi-permanent taps, and new models almost always with a rubber
strip behind the front tap that could be removed by a cobbler
(keeping the taps on can be fun to, but a bit slippery). Ask
friends online about sizing and experience." |
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Having collected quite a few worthy video
contributions, we are devoting this Update to them; we Unidentified Japanese or Korean singer #1 Unidentified Japanese or Korean singer #2Unidentified Japanese or Korean singer #3 Mari Hamada (big petticoat, poor quality) Aya Matsuura (Wow! This may be a favorite!)'Gardetanz' and the like... http://youtube.com/watch?v=XMDa-cIbLXo (mini cute) www.youtube.com/watch?v=btR4dT9l7BQ (mini cute)http://youtube.com/watch?v=NLbhNUSD3hM ** http://youtube.com/watch?v=ouIWzPBddHQ !!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVlmBMYk8G4 #1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9jZYGvGIuk #2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MAHQGrarN8http://youtube.com/watch?v=MDG0SAl0ZoQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=7-I9ZhK58jYhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=4kIl_KSMlvA http://youtube.com/watch?v=TClPSnGC-Rs http://youtube.com/watch?v=FidJLLTEvLE http://youtube.com/watch?v=-itojyk7bkcSissy Dahli: A promo for a dance instruction video Many of youPoufies
were helpful with the Mary Jane query,
but Ruffles' response seems
First, visit the Goody
2 Shoes
website,
especially the shopping tips section. There is often a discussion in
one of the sections If you can cross the barrier, there are more in Japan, Mexico, Germany, and Portugal./// LATE TO 'PRESS': Laura, of LD Fashions, writes:
"Here
is the best source I have found - the price is right and, if you order 2
pairs, you get free shipping."
LATE, LATE TO PRESS: Felicity:
"Try
eBay fashion4fetish - they are
fantastic for price and good delivery times, even though they are in
California.
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Here is an exciting vidclip from
Crinolyn, followed by two others worthy of your approval:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R_6J0rxPcqQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=A7Eht1XmUtQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=lD-CC6cyi1Q IMPORTANT NOTE! Vibrant
Ballet Folklorico dancers perform at Hispanic Festival |
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A rather interesting article on haute couture |
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Shelley found another
interesting vidclip
from a new
dress company photo-shoot (see 28 Sep)
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Rikki sends this
nice square dance twirling vidclip |
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Rikki found this
interesting vidclip from a new
dress company photo-shoot
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Bo Persson has sent a nice dance video from Wettenberg 2007. |
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Bo Persson: "I was watching a programme today Tuesday called This Morning;
they were showing fall fashion. To show something posh, they brought Tessy: Seen it all before, haven't we? Never gets to the common woman's level. Guess Tessy is cynical. |
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Rikki writes: Cute Austrians in nice outfits, dance with bottles on their heads. True talent. www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZGtuMj1QrU |
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More vidclips from Bo Persson from the 2007 Wettenberg festival: |
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Shelley points to this good vidclip |
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In the past, over time, the below site was
pointed out by severalPoufies, and Tessy rejected the idea of posting it
because, at the time, "trashing the gown" included burning and
destruction, and she felt it disrespectful to an article of clothing which
should be honored and preserved. Recently, 'Lingerie Lover' pointed
out the site again, and when Tessy rejected the notion, he pointed out
that 99% of the images were of gowns being some how introduced to water.
This appears to be a change from the site as she originally saw it,
so,
because there ARE a number of Poufies out there who love wet brides (and other pettis), Tessy changed her mind: www.trashthedress.com |
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Bo Persson sends
his second (final)
petticoat competition vidclip from Wettenberg
'07
See also yesterday's and 7 Aug Update Chiffon came across this
unique and interesting
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Crinolyn:
"A video voyeur seems to have scared away a Lolita customer in a Japanese store:" http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=5778469
Bo Persson sends
this vidclip from Wettenberg
'07:
"This is the so called
Petticoat Competition that is the big thing of the third day of
the festival. See also the 7 Aug Update |
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Now
here's a
video worth watching, sent by Shelley...
Bo Persson has invited the Poufie s (and others) to take a look at hisonline photo album of '07 Wettenberg: |
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SoTe writes: "I was given this URL for Japanese round dancers. They really know how to dress in our favorite attire:" |
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Shelley came up with this vidclip of June Allyson - anyPoufie know from which movie it came? A coupleofPoufies said it came from The Glenn Miller Story (1953) , but Tessy is pretty familiar with that film, and does not believe so. The most reasonable input comes from Ann (below), especially since Harry James is not listed in The Glenn Miller Story cast (while Gene Krupa and LouisArmstrong are - why would Mr. James be left out?: Ann: "I think that video clip is from Best Foot Forward (1943). According to the Internet Movie DataBase, that is a flick that had both June Allysonand Harry James in it. The uniform he's wearing looks like WWII." However, The Glenn Miller Story took place before and during WWII as well, so that means nothing. Serena:
"I'm not sure, but I think the June Allison clip is from Two Girls
and a Sailor (1944). If not, the only other film June made with
Harry James
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Some links of interest, from Ian:
www.travelnotes.de/rails/old00/pet1.htm SEVERAL POUFIES HAVE INQUIRED AS TO WHEN (IF EVER) ESLYNN CLASSICS WILL BE REOPENING FOR BUSINESS.
Apparently, the pretty
panties which they used to sell are missed by a bevy of Poufies! |
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"There must be something more powerful than caffeine in these
kids in the following video; |
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...Mike F. has sent a pointer to an interesting line dance vidclip: |
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Ian tenders this quit sweet wedding album from 1957: |
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SHELLEY: 'FREEZE THIS AT 51 SECONDS:' |
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Dirk, the
webmaster of a relatively new site,
www.classic-catfights.com, has sent some more petti
material from within.
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A Poufbunny has put us on to this classic Petula Clark Video - Yumyum! www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ij3du7BvMk Beth points to this exciting little Quinceanera celebration: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kqr467IpT0 Age fifteen: Her first high heels...and what a gown!
She sure knows how to handle that hoopskirt! |
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"Let's take up line dancing with this group right away: ...what perfect silhouettes. Wow!!" |
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Aunt Claudette writes: "Here's something for your blog just in case your readers
think petticoating a little boy is just so much fantasy that never really
"About thirty-five years ago, when I lived in a town in
the east side of Massachusetts, I was in a Dunkin Donuts shop, sitting in a
""I bought him a page boy wig to wear with bangs on
his forehead. Once I put him in a pretty dress with a bouffant slip under
it "'It sounds like fun,' said the other woman, 'but you really shouldn't be doing that to him.' "'Oh, I know,' said the boy's mother. 'But you should see what a pretty little girl he looks like. I put a bow on his hair and some lipstick on him too. It's so much fun, and he likes it too.' "'How often do you do this?' asked her friend. "'Almost every night after we have supper,' she
replied. 'Sometimes in the morning, and he stays in with me all day. I
first "Her friend warned her again about possible bad effects it might have on him later when he was older. "'I suppose you might be right,' said his mother. 'But it's hard to not want to do it. He really does make such a cute little girl.' "Then they began to talk about other things and I saw them leave a few minutes later. "I never heard what happened to the boy later
when he was older. Perhaps he visits Petticoat Pond now?" |
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John from Spanking Services points to this little vid-piece of 'Alice heaven.' |
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Rikki sends along this cute square dance page:
www.aa.alles.or.jp/~tkysdc/COSTUME/costume/coschristmas-eng.html |
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Wendy T. sends this vidclip with some pretty dresses |
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Denise writes: "I always got a kick out of the Yoplait Yogurt commercial with a wife and husband where the wife is dressed as a French Maid and their young daughter walks in and catches them. In looking for that I found this short clip of another Japanese cutie in petticoats. |
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Cailin sends this vidclip featuring a
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Rikki Rabbit writes: "A few great videos from the Taiwan Square Dance Convention.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnknpBktkM&mode=related&search= www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqhtADOZznw&mode=user&search= www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD-Y5jB7-Eo&mode=user&search= And so many couples both in dresses, it makes me swoon to imagine." Jennifer writes: "I am looking for the link
to a girl group who sings a song in petticoats and Mary Jane
shoes which I believe it was in one of the 2005 Updates and
appears to have been removed from iTunes. Does anyPoufie
remember the name of the group or the song?. It’s driving |
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Kris writes: "For us in the UK on Channel 4 Tuesday at 8pm. A slightly different makeover show??www.channel4.com/life/microsites/H/htlgn/index.html Check out the first two episodes - both ladies wearing
fifties skirts and petticoats; also, episode one's1 catwalk video clip We also get another resource at Beyond Retro:" |
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NOTE FROM A VISITOR: "I am a designer and specialize in corsetry but I am determined to become the best petti-maker out there but I need some feedback. Here is my website with my current designs which I have been doing since 1997. www.pinklabelcorsets.com I am an
experienced seamstress, designer wanting to break into the wonderful world
of petticoats. I am a beginner petti maker at |
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Mike F. has run across a simple free
stand-alone YouTube downloader program: http://youtubedownload.altervista.org |
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Mischa writes: Question for historical re-enactment
participants: Have you ever made a wheel farthingale? |
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Crinolyn sends this interesting read: http://sandersmr.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-early-memories.html |
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Shelley provides this extremely bizarre commercial (but the dress is nice!) |
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Jörg writes:
"On YouTube I found on a sample (1:23) showing the best moments of Chisato Moritaka's videos. She's wearing sexy short, very full and exciting bouncy petticoats and skirts. Her endless legs and the movements of her tutu-like petticoats are breathtaking." Montage of these moments. More Japanese gals en petti... |
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"I know exactly the emotions shown by the Poufie who likes the old
style tulle ballroom dresses. They just seem to have disappeared
from Earth! I've tried all ways to try to find out where they all went with the object of purchasing, and I've still not got a clue after 25 years of searching. Also, the BBC's Come Dancing program ran in that genre for many years, but the only footage I know of it is in the video I have previously highlighted on The Pond. So another question is, 'Where has all the film gone?' I tried the BBC and they said it was either destroyed or taped over. SHAME I say!!! Tessy: Conspiracy lurking there! Shelley found this cute vidclip: When in Japan, Poufies should make a special effort to have lunch HERE! |
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A Poufie was looking at a picture of ballroom dancers from the '70s,
and a thought occurred
to her: What happened to all those gorgeous old gowns, with their hundreds of yards of tulle? Surely they weren't all thrown out. How come there are never any for sale on eBay? Does anyPoufie know where one can get the genuine article? |
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"Here's a couple of hot (vidclips) for all the dance lovers - some of the most amazing twirling I've ever seen:" |
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Those of you of a certain age will remember the famous Loretta Young flamboyant entrances though the door on her weekly show. Here is a compendium of a few on YouTube, pointed out by Beth <sigh>. |
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Elizabeth writes: "Is there any view more enjoyable for a petticoat aficionado than to see a GG wearing a frothy petticoat and playing with it at the same time? The answer is YES!! When petticoat aficionados can see a whole dancing ensemble of GG's wearing fun, full, and frothy petticoats while smiling, laughing and playing with their petticoats, all while dancing! YouTube has FIVE - count 'em -
FIVE videos for our viewing pleasure and enjoyment!! Billy's Got His Beer Goggles On (1:10 length)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZnXoEqq8ng Hold Your Horses (00:23 length) www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGyDcngw7I Homespun Love (1:10 length) www.youtube.com/watch?v=L96gCkpThOc Kerosene (00:42 length) www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGGBF8a5E34 Better Life (00:48 length) www.youtube.com/watch?v=EapYlS-3AOw A dancing troupe of GG's in petticoats! It doesn't get
much better than this!!" |
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Lucky Aunt Claudette reminisces about her jobs in the 50s:
"When I was in high school,
I had a part-time
job during the
school year, and it
was full time during
my summer
vacation. I was a
stock Half of the day, I'd be hanging petticoats and bouffant slips and regular full and half slips on display racks, and panties, garter belts, corsets, nylons, etc. on tabletops divided into bins according to size and small counter top racks. I'd also be hanging up new dresses for women and girls on taller racks. For someone that found petticoats so fascinating, the job was like a dream come true. Most of the salesgirls were dressed in the bouffant style while they worked.
One in particular
was a well
constructed sexy
sort of gal that ran
the makeup
counter. Like most
of the women working
in the store, Later I got switched to the housewares
department in the basement where the much older saleswomen didn't wear
petticoats. Every now and then, I'd be told to work in the window display department which was run by a guy who was clearly gay; there were two younger straight men who worked with him. They didn't just make the window displays, but also dressed the mannequins for the windows and other mannequins in the dress and lingerie departments. Setting up displays in these departments was also a fun experience. The owner of the store was a nice little old
Jewish man, and his two sons were both vice presidents and buyers of
the company. A Actually, the very first job I had while in
high school was an after school job working in a huge mill outlet
store in 1955. I can still remember the many long racks of
petticoats in the store arranged side by side with a narrow aisle
between them. Part of my job was to take a count of the petticoats
on each rack, noting which rack, sizes and colors were needed. I was
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Spanking Services
sends
this article.
It appears that the
author is really not
referring to |
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Something called "National Ballet Sofia" sent Tessy this page, which contains some ballet vidclips, some of which will be of interest to Poufies. |
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Otto from Holland writes: "I
found an interesting
video on Youtube; the
song is not very
interesting but the
girls in French maid
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Elizabeth writes: "As popular as the Internet is today, I can't recall ever seeing the following link on the Update Log page of The Pond:
If you read all the way to the bottom of the page, there are links to
Petticoat Pond!"
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Jennifer writes: "I was surfing and stumbled upon this site that I think you might be interested in seeing:"
http://tesla.liketelevision.com/liketelevision/search/search.php?q=Funky+Shorts&theme=guide Tessy: On the border of 'petti-ness', but cute and the panties are worth the look!
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Tessy's not sure what
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Ruffles writes, regarding Burger King advertisements: "Without paying subscription fees, the best I could do in finding the mentioned Burger King ad was to find some others with pettis in them: ...of course, I could have registered at the pretty good advertisement site Visit4, if I was one to spend all my time looking at ads." |
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"Ran across this
clip on Myspace. The host of this silly show is a cute Japanese gal named Kiko
who wears a cute pink petti! |
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Chiffon writes:
"Some lovely dresses/skirts and even some petticoat shots:" |
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Telling female input is always welcome, so Del writes: "Here's an excerpt from an email I just received from a female
friend, Dora, with whom I've stayed in touch with over the years, "It turns out you aren’t the only fan of big skirts and petticoats; I hired an outfit for a fifties night last month and it was a case of 'down boy, down!' all evening from several sources. The other gals on our table got the same thing. Anyway, the petticoat thing became a topic of discussion at our table for quite a while, and none of the girls could remember any of their other evening clothes getting such a reaction, although one reported a schoolgirl costume coming close. By the end of the evening we all agreed (men too) that living in the fifties could have been pretty exciting. Certainly dancing was much more fun with a big skirt swirling round your waist. Yes it did make me feel horny - and rather alluring too! " Tessy: So...if this is the
way many gals think, well, what are they waiting for? WE can't wear them
out! |
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Jennifer H. sends this
"interesting and twisted(??) page:"
Crinolyn goes "ga-ga" over this paper dress , by Thierry Mugler:www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThHjyOjYePI |
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Jennifer H.
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special interest to Poufies, especially the first one, which is quite unique! Sugar writes: "I
like square dancing,
especially when the
dancers twirl
showing off their
crinolines. Well,
this link may be of
interest to the
Poufies |
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"I don't think it gets much better than wearing a complete French
maid's outfit with full ensemble. This includes a fully starched full
petticoat, satin panties, stockings, high heels, apron, wig and
headdress, altogether with a beautiful French maid choker. But, I do
need |
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Two interesting links from Shelley: |
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"Hey, those old Scopitones are fun -
Sherry by Les Chats Sauvages" |
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Sean K. writes: "There's something about South
Americans I can't put my finger on: their cultural dances always
involve girls wearing extraordinary http://youtube.com/watch?v=bM-Myh9XTJg Ed: Not just South America, but
Spain itself, the mother country! |
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Celine writes:
"I found these
nice videos, hope you like them... |
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Here's a cute one from Becca: |
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Peter M.: www.kqed.org/arts/people/spark/profile.jsp?id=7763 Click on "stream video" and watch from 0:20 to 0:50 and also 1:45 to 2:07. |
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VidClips from Shelley:
1959 wedding
1960 wedding |
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Ruffles writes: "You might want to take a peek at this Russian Folk video with some nice petticoats in thefirst few minutes and other good dance excerpts." |
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Rebecca R. writes: "I've found a very good Rock and Roll clip that certainly get the petticoats flinging. (from the UK in the early 1970s at a 50s revival gig)" |
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Jack S. writes: "The following link is a streaming video of an old home movie. It's a long one, but approximately 15% of the way through there is a young girl doing a cheerleading (or similar) routine that you will love:" www.homemoviedepot.com/archive/view/dannyrwalls/239031.html |
